
A Book with Legs
Welcome to A Book with Legs podcast, hosted by Smead Capital Management. In each episode, the folks at Smead Capital Management explore value investing through an entirely unique lens, bringing in authors to discuss books that have directly or indirectly influenced the decisions the Smead team has made on their investments in stocks and equities. The podcast is for the curious-minded looking for worldly wisdom. Investing is the last great liberal art, and the team at Smead wants to learn as much as they can. Any level of investor, business person, or thinker, whether personally or professionally, will be intrigued and engaged by these discussions.
Latest episodes

Nov 21, 2022 • 1h 15min
Spencer Jakab - The Revolution That Wasn't
“I’ll never forget the day I found out my sons were degenerates.”Spencer Jakab of The Wall Street Journal joins Cole and Bill to discuss his book, The Revolution That Wasn't: GameStop, Reddit, and the Fleecing of Small Investors. Jakab’s work explores the GameStop saga and how the modern-day squeeze unraveled. The trio discusses the characters involved in the mania, the role smart phones played, how the financial industry underestimated the power of algorithmic social media, as well as the real winners and losers of it all.

Nov 7, 2022 • 1h 8min
Greg Steinmetz - American Rascal
“The smarter people knew that if Gould was coming after them, it was better to negotiate a peace rather than fighting to the bitter end.”Author and journalist Greg Steinmetz joins Cole and Bill to discuss his book, American Rascal: How Jay Gould Built Wall Street's Biggest Fortune. Greg’s book details the life of Jay Gould, one of the most polarizing robber barons of the 19th century. The conversation covers Gould’s early business ventures, his path to becoming a railroad tycoon, and how he ultimately became the man who controlled Wall Street.

Oct 24, 2022 • 1h 16min
Jeff Nussbaum - Undelivered
Political speechwriter Jeff Nussbaum joins Cole to discuss his book, Undelivered: The Never-Heard Speeches That Would Have Rewritten History. Almost every given speech in history had a raw opposite that went undelivered. Jeff’s work provides an in-depth look into the noteworthy and captivating speeches that would have altered the course of history, had they ever been spoken out loud. Jeff and Cole examine the undelivered speeches by historic figures like Helen Keller, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy, and more. They explore why those speeches stayed on paper, and the alternate outcomes that would have resulted had they been given.

Oct 10, 2022 • 1h 12min
Sir Howard Davies - The Chancellors
In this episode, Cole is joined by Sir Howard Davies, author of the book, The Chancellors: Steering the British Economy in Crisis Times. Howard’s book reexamines the last 25 years of British economic history and the role the Treasury has played. Cole and Howard discuss the issues that struck the Treasury, some of the notable names involved, and solutions moving forward.

Sep 26, 2022 • 1h 7min
Helen Rappaport – After the Romanovs
“There was an overwhelming feeling of melancholy, of loss, that they could never adjust to.”Sunday Times and New York Times bestselling author Helen Rappaport joins Cole to discuss her book, After the Romanovs: Russian Exiles in Paris from the Belle Époque Through Revolution and War. Helen’s work details the Russian aristocrats, artists, writers, philosophers, and intellectuals who searched for refuge in Paris after the revolution of 1917 and during the civil war that followed. Cole and Helen discuss how the Russian immigrants assimilated to life in France and the struggles they endured.

Sep 12, 2022 • 1h 12min
Peter Doran - Breaking Rockefeller
“At the end of the day, money is what was most important to John D. Rockefeller.”Peter Doran joins the podcast to discuss his book, Breaking Rockefeller: The Incredible Story of the Ambitious Rivals Who Toppled an Oil Empire. Peter’s work takes a deep dive into the growth of the oil industry, how John D. Rockefeller grabbed control and built a worldwide monopoly, the underdogs who joined forces to defeat him, and how greed played a crucial role. The group also examines the issues prompted by the consolidation of capital and the importance of competition in America.

Sep 6, 2022 • 24min
The Smead Book List - Fall 2022
Interested in what’s on the Smead Capital Management book list? In this episode, Cole, Bill, and Senior Analyst Seamus Sullivan list the books they have recently read, what they’re currently reading, and the books they have on deck. Have a book you would like to recommend for the podcast? Email suggestions to podcast@smeadcap.com.

Aug 22, 2022 • 1h 16min
Matthew Bernstein - George Hearst: Silver King of the Gilded Age
Matthew Bernstein joins Cole to discuss his book, George Hearst: Silver King of the Gilded Age. Matthew’s book examines Hearst’s unique path to building a mining empire, his career in politics, a quest for wealth, and the many life lessons that can be learned from it all. Cole says, “This is a book that helps investors understand how money can be made when it’s not being printed in Washington D.C. or New York.”

Aug 8, 2022 • 1h 15min
Scott McNealy on 'High Noon' authored by Karen Southwick
Through the lens of Karen Southwick’s book, High Noon, Cole is joined by former Sun Microsystems CEO Scott McNealy to explore the author’s work and the company’s history. Scott was with Sun Microsystems as COO “In the Beginning.” In this episode, the podcast takes on an alternative format known as “In the Beginning” where we have a discussion with a founder/early executive from the foundation of a book about the company. Karen’s book highlights Sun’s ascent to power and the crucial role McNealy played. Cole and Scott discuss Sun’s early stages, its growing pains, disputes with Microsoft, and how it became a company that helped develop the internet.

Jul 25, 2022 • 1h 10min
Mary Childs - The Bond King
To understand the bond market, you have to understand the Bond King. In this episode, Mary Childs joins Cole and Bill to discuss her book, The Bond King: How One Man Made a Market, Built an Empire, and Lost It All. Mary’s book explores the rise of Bill Gross, how he shaped the inner workings of the investment business and bond industry, and the culture at one of the world’s largest money management firms. The book also serves as a vessel to understanding the bond bull market that began in the early 1980s.
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