Ziggy, writer of a tragic story of an apartment collapse in Iowa, discusses the future of gene editing, big pharma, and healthcare. The hosts explore DarkBERT, an AI model that uses the dark web for information. They also delve into the security and accessibility of the dark web, Nvidia's role in emerging AI platforms, and the control of medical cures by big pharma. They mention upcoming episodes on tipping and a cryptid in Ohio.