Zahra Hirji, a climate reporter with Bloomberg News, and Zeland Hoover, a former senior advisor to the EPA, dive into the tumultuous state of U.S. environmental policy. They discuss the detrimental impact of budget cuts and staff reductions on the EPA and environmental justice efforts. The implications of the Trump administration's regulatory rollbacks are explored, particularly their effects on vulnerable populations. Additionally, the conversation highlights the importance of civic engagement in advocating for effective environmental protection.