Charlotte Saenz is deeply involved in community building related to the Zapatista movement, while Zara Zimbardo adds her insights on its influence on global liberation. They discuss the innovative 'Zapatista Seed Pedagogics', emphasizing mutual education and autonomy. The conversation explores the Zapatistas’ resistance against colonial capitalism, their journey of reverse colonization, and the significance of decolonizing knowledge and identity. They highlight the interconnectedness of communities and the power of collective action in fostering resilience.