Garrett Cal, Pastor of Delray and co-host of Counseling Talk, along with Zach Schlegel, Pastor of First Baptist Upper Marlboro, delve into the challenges of feeling spiritually dry as a pastor. They share personal experiences and practical strategies for managing spiritual fatigue, emphasizing the importance of rest and self-care. The duo discusses the therapeutic power of music and Psalms in spiritual renewal and highlights the significance of personal devotion and supportive networks to combat burnout, fostering camaraderie among church leaders.