Yun Sun, a senior fellow at the Stimson Center and expert on Chinese foreign policy, discusses the recent arrival of giant pandas in the U.S. and their role in 'panda diplomacy.' She explores how these adorable animals symbolize deeper international ties between China and the U.S. The conversation also tackles the ethics of zoos, weighing conservation efforts against animal welfare concerns. Yun provides insight into the complexities of human-animal interactions and the significant impact pandas have on global relations.

Much of the world has been watching the rapidly developing situation in Afghanistan with a mix of shock and anguish. Bryce Klehm spoke with five experts to get a sense of how the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan is being perceived around the world. You’ll hear from Madiha Afzal, the David M. Rubenstein Fellow in the Foreign Policy program at the Brookings Institution, on Pakistan; Suzanne Maloney, the vice president and director of the Foreign Policy program at Brookings, on Iran; Yun Sun, the director of the China Program at the Stimson Center, on China; Joy Neumeyer, a writer and historian of Russia and the Soviet Union who has also worked as a journalist in Moscow, on Russia; and Constanze Stelzenmüller, the Fritz Stern Chair on Germany and trans-Atlantic Relations and a senior fellow in the Foreign Policy program at the Brookings Institution, on Germany. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.