Ying Tong Lai, a researcher at Geometry Research known for her work on Zcash's Halo 2, and Bryan Gillespie from Inversed Tech, who focuses on privacy technologies, dive into the intricacies of programmable privacy. They discuss their research on classifying and implementing privacy in distributed systems. The duo shares insights on zero-knowledge proofs, the evolution of cryptographic systems, and the balance between privacy and usability in decentralized finance. Their personal journeys from academia to the crypto space unravel the interdisciplinary nature of these innovations.