Chris Ryan, a music writer and podcaster, joins Yasi Salek, host of Bandsplain, and Mary Bronstein, writer-director of 'If I Had Legs I'd Kick You.' They dive into Scott Cooper's 'Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere,' discussing its lack of dramatic stakes and cinematic story. Chris and Yasi express their views on the potential and pitfalls of music biopics, while Mary shares her deeply personal journey in filmmaking and navigating audience empathy. Insights into casting choices and the challenges of telling imperfect stories make for a captivating conversation.