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Winnona Bernsen
Nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Cyber Statecraft Initiative and founder of DistrictCon. Author of the report "Crash (Exploit) and Burn: Securing the Offensive Cyber Supply Chain to Counter China in Cyberspace."
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Lawfare Daily: The Offensive Cyber Industry and U.S.-China Relations with Winnona Bernsen
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Winnona Bernsen, a nonresident fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Cyber Statecraft Initiative and founder of DistrictCon, dives into the complex world of the offensive cyber industry. She discusses the staggering billion-dollar market for zero-day vulnerabilities and the procurement challenges faced by contractors. The conversation also highlights the contrasting cybersecurity strategies of the U.S. and China, revealing how national values impact hacking culture. With an eye towards the future, Winnona emphasizes the need for international collaboration and talent recognition in cybersecurity.
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