William Pace, a seasoned expert in international criminal justice, and Kenneth Roth, a prominent advocate for human rights, delve into the ramifications of U.S. sanctions on the International Criminal Court. They discuss how Trump's punitive measures target the court's investigation into Israel's actions in Gaza, raising questions about the future of international justice. The conversation highlights the potential emboldening of authoritarian regimes and the strained U.S.-European relations as a result of these sanctions, emphasizing the need for bipartisan support in global human rights efforts.