In this riveting discussion, Ghost Exodus, a former hacker turned musician, shares his journey from a troubled upbringing and a life of cybercrime to seeking redemption. He reflects on his dangerous escape from law enforcement and the moral dilemmas of hacking for justice. Wesley McGrew, a researcher who reported Ghost's activities to the FBI, provides insight into the impact of hacking culture and the relentless pursuit of criminals. Together, they explore the blurred lines of activism and the consequences that followed.