In this discussion, Adam Jacob, co-founder of Chef, Heather Meeker, an open-source lawyer, Manish Jain from Dgraph Labs, Paul Dix of InfluxData, and strategist VM Brasseur tackle the fallout between Elastic and AWS over licensing issues. They explore the implications of the SSPL license, the ethical concerns around open-source business models, and the complexities of navigating competition with cloud giants. The conversation also delves into the future of open-source licensing and the intricate balance between commercial interests and community values.