Victory Boyd, artist who has worked with Kanye and was signed by Jay-Z, discusses the influence of black American female vocalists, the power of whispers, sharing the gospel, personal challenges, finding victory in darkness, the process of songwriting, music as a universal gospel, profound simplicity, embracing creativity, being grounded for success and growth, the significance of Jesus, incorruptible standards, messy humanity in the Bible, struggling with tension, length of the podcast, favorite foods, and the meticulous design of the temple.