Vic Rayner, Chair of the Care Providers Alliance and CEO of the National Care Forum, discusses the financial challenges of social care in England. He highlights the average annual cost of residential care homes, emotional tales from families navigating care fees, and the disparities between self-funded and council-funded services. The conversation also delves into the complexities of financing care, particularly with dementia, stressing the urgent need for improved funding and community support to tackle these rising costs.