Tyler Cowen, an influential economist, joins the discussion alongside insights from the Ukrainian military, known for their strategic resilience. They delve into the mismatched U.S. defense strategy and necessary resources, raising concerns about threats from China. A highlight is Cowen's commentary on innovative policy solutions, while the Ukrainian military's recent successes against Russia inspire a broader conversation on military priorities. With humor and critical analysis, they examine the challenges of military readiness and the implications for American defense initiatives.