Trish Bendix, a writer known for her deep dive into sapphic pop music, joins to explore its vibrant history and cultural impact. The conversation highlights the evolution of queer representation in music, emphasizing influential artists and pivotal moments. They tackle JoJo Siwa's claim to create 'gay pop' and the mixed reactions she's faced. The duo celebrates resilience in sapphic identities and the growing acceptance of queer narratives in mainstream music, inviting listeners to connect with emerging artists and discussions.