In this episode, Trevor Hudson, a teacher and author, discusses his initial reaction to Dallas Willard's view of God in The Divine Conspiracy. They explore the concept of God's joy in the midst of suffering and reflect on their own doubts and fears. They also share personal experiences with Dallas Willard and delve into the significance of death and the portrayal of compassion in Scripture. They discuss how images of Jesus shape our journey and end with gratitude for the listeners' support.

Trevor Hudson, an accomplished author of over 22 books and a key figure at Renovaré International, joins for a thoughtful conversation. They dive into the concept of 'Zoe life', a transformative spiritual experience, and how it reflects on personal journeys of faith. Trevor shares insights from his work alongside Desmond Tutu in South Africa and discusses his latest book, which draws lessons from great thinkers like St. Ignatius and Dallas Willard. The dialogue is rich with anecdotes and emphasizes cultivating deep, personal relationships with spirituality.