Tony Romm

Tyler Pager, White House correspondent, Catie Edmondson, Congressional correspondent, and Tony Romm, economic policy reporter, discuss the unprecedented dynamics of the current government shutdown. They explore how the White House is weaponizing the situation to exert political pressure and how funding decisions are strategically used against opponents. The conversation also highlights the impact on civilian employees and the complexities surrounding legal challenges to troop payments, while considering the potential paths to resolve the standoff.