Tony Harris, an education expert, and Andy Wirth, a ski executive, share their firsthand experiences at Neom, Saudi Arabia's ambitious city project. They reveal shocking insights into the project's mismanagement, with a cash-bleeding operation led by a volatile CEO. Discussions highlight the disconnect between Neom's grand visions and grim realities, including runaway spending and environmental concerns. Their reflections on the struggles between development and nature’s beauty raise important questions about future sustainability.