Tom Pink, a philosophy professor at King's College London and an expert on Francisco Suárez, dives into the intricate ethical theories of the 16th-century Spanish Jesuit. They explore Suárez's nuanced views on moral action, highlighting how reason and freedom shape our decisions. Pink discusses the complex relationship between divine authority and moral obligation, alongside the balance of civil and religious duties. The conversation also contrasts Suárez's political philosophy with that of Hobbes, shedding light on their differing perspectives on authority and freedom.