In a revealing discussion, guests TJ Malden, a pastor advocating for transparency, David Rubel, co-founder of the Religious Trauma Network, and filmmaker Nathan Apfel expose the misuse of NDAs in churches. They share personal experiences and define what silencing NDAs are, emphasizing the need for accountability and ethical standards in church leadership. Their project aims to create a Public Disclosure Database to combat these practices, restoring trust and fostering healthier communities. The conversation highlights the power dynamics at play and the urgent need for transparency in spiritual settings.