Tira Schubart, a journalist focused on space and geopolitics, and Phil Tinline, a documentary maker and author, dive into the intriguing prospect of a clandestine US-Russia peace plan about Ukraine. They explore the possibility of leaks aimed at shifting blame onto Ukraine, discuss necessary security guarantees for the nation, and evaluate potential territorial concessions. The conversation shifts to the G20, addressing Trump's absence and the implications for global cultural dynamics, before wrapping up with insights on Europe's urgent need for independent space capabilities.
