Timothy Edgar and Paul Rosenzweig discuss the Volt Typhoon cyber intrusion, highlighting differing views on U.S. cybersecurity strategy. They explore the legal and privacy implications of the botnet removal and the need for reevaluating cybersecurity measures. The conversation touches on the concept of mutually assured disruption in cyber conflicts, the challenges of issuing warrants for technological devices, and the importance of rethinking cybersecurity strategies in response to Chinese threats.