Guests Bahaa Zidan, Dylan Huang, Tim Ottinger, and Tim Spann discuss why your web framework doesn’t matter, reviews of HTMX, the importance of thinking in programming, and advocating for small language models (SLM) in this entertaining podcast.

Guests discuss why your web framework doesn't matter, programming as a thinking process, the value of small language models, and exploring diverse perspectives on HTMX and DevOps tools in the tech sector.

Tim Ottinger, an expert in ensemble programming and technical excellence, discusses topics such as implementing technical practices for continuous deployment and collaboration, the evolution and adoption of ensemble programming, code readability, and the future of programming including the impact of AI.