In this enlightening discussion, guests James Mahon, Chair of the CUNY-Lehman College Philosophy Department, and Tim O'Keefe, Professor at Georgia State University, dissect the ethics behind the Santa Claus myth. They explore how energy spent perpetuating the Santa story could be redirected towards acts of true kindness. Drawing on Epicurean philosophy, they delve into the essence of happiness, suggesting that meaningful relationships should take precedence over material wealth during the holiday season. This thought-provoking dialogue also contrasts secular and theological interpretations of Christmas.