Tim Brennan

Join Mary Robinette Kowal, a celebrated science fiction author known for her award-winning works and her cat's button communication, Katie Golden, a behavioral biologist and podcaster, and Tim Brennan, a cognitive psychology expert from the University of Oslo. They dive into the intriguing concept of deception in pets, debating whether cats and dogs can lie. The conversation reveals animal communication nuances, explores squirrels' deceptive behaviors, and examines the psychological aspects of lying in both pets and humans, all delivered with engaging anecdotes.