Thomas Oord, a theologian advocating for a radically loving but non-omnipotent God, shares his groundbreaking ideas on divine power. He discusses the implications of this view on creation, evolution, and suffering, challenging traditional beliefs about God's control. Tom reflects on his personal experiences, including a heresy trial over his LGBTQI+ affirming stance, and emphasizes hope without guarantees. The conversation dives deep into the nature of love, human agency, and the significance of compassion in faith, encouraging a fresh perspective on spirituality.