Thomas Mayo, author and contributor to The Saturday Paper, reflects on the defeat of the referendum, discusses the emotional impact of the result and the responsibility for spreading lies. They also explore the shortcomings of the Yes campaign, the consequences of rejecting the Voice, and the need for a nationally representative body for Indigenous people.

Thomas Mayo, a passionate Kaurareg Aboriginal and Kalkalgal, Erubamle Torres Strait Islander activist, discusses the path forward after the recent referendum loss for an Indigenous Voice to Parliament. He emphasizes resilience and a new generation of Indigenous leaders rising to the challenge. Mayo critiques governmental failures, especially regarding the Makarata Commission, and shares insights from his book, which outlines a hopeful vision for justice and recognition. He also reflects on the importance of community bonds and the need for deeper understanding of Indigenous issues.

Experts Thomas Mayo and Margo Neale, along with journalist David Marr, delve into the impact of the Voice Referendum result and the importance of truth-telling for reconciliation between Black and White Australians. They discuss the significance of preserving Indigenous knowledge, uncovering historical atrocities, and the creation of a third archive for truth-telling and fusion of cultures.