Thomas Manuel, co-host of Yes Indie'd podcast and contributor to Indie RPG Newsletter, joins the podcast to discuss Secondary Missions in Band of Blades, a grim military fantasy game. They explore how this mechanic supports the genre and themes, presents tough choices, and stands out in comparison to other games. The conversation also touches on the challenging decision-making process, hard choices and the cost of war, the brutality of the game, and the cultural fantasy of glorifying war.