In this episode, Soroush Pour interviews Thomas Larsen, Director for Strategy at the Center for AI Policy. They discuss various topics including technical alignment areas such as scalable oversight, interpretability, heuristic arguments, model evaluations, agent foundations, and more. They also explore the concept of AIXI, uncomputability, building a multi-level world model, inverse reinforcement learning, and cooperative AI. The conversation concludes with a discussion on future challenges and cooperation in AI systems.