Tankred Hase, a seasoned expert in Bitcoin and Lightning networks, dives into the evolution of Bitcoin and Liquid. He discusses real-world challenges developers face, such as liquidity issues and capital gains taxes. Tankred emphasizes the necessity for user-friendly solutions, including custodial and trust-minimized options like Fedimint. He introduces StashPay as a promising low-fee payment solution on Liquid. The conversation also highlights the contrasting preferences between self-sovereign and custodial solutions among users, particularly in regions like Dubai and South America.