In this engaging discussion, Tanba Toji, representing the first-ever association of sake brewers, delves into the rich history and significance of the Tamba Toji Association. He shares the origins of toji as master brewers and how labor organizations have shaped the industry. Listeners learn about the exclusive membership criteria, the decline from 4000 to just 45 members, and the association's impact on sake craftsmanship. From historical challenges to cultural influences, this conversation deepens the appreciation of sake's legacy.