Joining the discussion is Tamara Kneese, the Director of Climate, Technology, and Justice at the Data & Society Research Institute. She dives into the absurdity of lunar data centers and critiques Silicon Valley's technosolutionist dreams. The conversation also highlights the environmental impact of AI and Bitcoin, addressing the societal backlash against these technologies. Kneese advocates for scientific research over blind faith in innovation, stressing the urgent need for genuine solutions to climate challenges and the preservation of Indigenous languages.