Susan Bauer

Maggie Penman, a reporter for The Washington Post's Optimist section, chats with Susan Bauer, founder of Old Ladies Against Underwater Garbage. They delve into the joy of cleaning ponds and how this unique activism fosters a sense of flow. They discuss the thrill of treasure hunting underwater and the importance of safety during their dives. The conversation connects Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's concept of flow to happiness, revealing how anyone can discover joy in everyday activities, even in the most unexpected places.