Dario Amodei is the Co-Founder and CEO of Anthropic. In the episode, we discuss detailed predictions on the AI industry for 2024, 2025, and beyond. Dario discusses his days at OpenAI, leaving to start Anthropic, why he doesn’t like the term AGI, what AI developments he’s most excited about right now, and much more. Overall, an enlightening conversation for anyone interested in the future of AI.

(0:00) Intro

(1:20) Joining OpenAI

(14:31) Are scaling and AI safety intertwined?

(20:31) Anthropic Early Days

(24:04) Amazon's Investment in Anthropic

(24:19) FTX investment in Anthropic

(25:50) Anthropic's Business Today

(30:51) Dario's Advice For Builders

(34:26) Should we pause AI progress?

(36:27) Future of AI

(37:55) Dario's Biggest AI Safety Concerns

(44:57) How Anthropic Deals With AI Bias

(49:29) Anthropic's Responsible Scaling Policy

(56:36) Testifying in front of Congress

(59:25) Will AI destroy humanity?

(1:00:00) GPT3 vs GPT4

(1:02:26) The memification of a CEO

(1:09:30) What are you most surprised by with AI?

(1:17:03) Why don't you like the term AGI?

(1:21:50) 2024 AI Predictions

(1:33:45) Dario's opinion on open-source models

(1:38:03) Probability of AI Catastrophe

(1:40:52) Misuse of AI

(1:44:44) Looking ahead: Dario's optimistic outlook on AI

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Music: Griff Lawson

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Logan Bartlett is a Software Investor at Redpoint Ventures - a Silicon Valley-based VC with $6B AUM and investments in Snowflake, DraftKings, Twilio, and Netflix. In each episode of The Logan Bartlett Show, we sit down with the people behind today’s most important startups and extract the tactics, lessons, and frameworks they’ve learned the hard way. Conversations span hiring to GTM, product, growth, fundraising and everything in between - collectively forming the ultimate playbook to make you a better CEO, investor or board member.

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