Join Evelina Fedorenko, an MIT Associate Professor exploring the brain's language functions, along with Steve Piantadosi, a UC Berkeley expert on child language acquisition, and Gary Lupyan, who investigates language evolution at UW-Madison. They delve into the dynamic interplay between language and thought, discussing whether intelligence emerges from language or the other way around. The conversation touches on the challenges posed by large language models to traditional linguistics, individual cognitive processes, and the fascinating disconnect between language abilities and reasoning skills.