When marketing meets finance, the data gets real.

In this episode, George Samaras, Head of Marketing Operations at Ataccama, joins Adam Kaiser to zoom in on what happens when marketing ops reports directly to the CFO.

George explains how being part of the finance org reshaped his view of marketing metrics, moving from campaign performance to pipeline impact and revenue accountability. He also outlines how Ataccama’s RevOps model unites marketing, sales, and customer success around one shared source of truth for better GTM visibility.

You’ll hear how he’s helping bridge the gap between creative strategy and financial outcomes, what he’s learned about efficiency from the finance lens, and why marketers need to start thinking in terms of dollars, not just engagement.

In this conversation, you’ll learn:

How sitting under finance changes the way marketing ops measures success

Why marketers should frame results around revenue generation or cost savings

How RevOps alignment improves data visibility and decision-making

Why financial fluency is becoming a must-have skill for modern marketers

Jump into the conversation:

(00:00) Introducing George Samaras

(01:03) Why marketing ops now reports to finance at Ataccama

(03:57) How financial alignment changes marketing measurement

(05:49) Evaluating MQLs, pipeline, and event ROI

(07:14) How AI and SEO shifts are impacting acquisition strategy

(08:14) Attribution challenges and in-house solutions using Salesforce and 6sense

(10:02) Lessons from sitting under the CFO’s org

(11:17) How finance influences marketing budgets and ROI analysis

(13:30) Why marketing ops needs to think like finance

(14:51) Acting as “Switzerland” between marketing and finance

(16:35) How shared data builds credibility for marketing

(18:17) The most unrealistic request George has ever received

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