Rutger Bregman, a historian and author known for his insights on wealth inequality, joins Stan Katz, a retired professor specializing in philanthropy. They dive deep into the origins of modern philanthropy, exploring the legacies of titans like Carnegie and Rockefeller. The discussion highlights the tension between huge wealth and public welfare, scrutinizing the impact of large philanthropic foundations on democracy. They question whether philanthropy truly serves the public good or merely perpetuates inequality, emphasizing the need for accountability and change in today’s society.