In this engaging discussion, Slavena Čankova, The Economist’s health care correspondent, shares insights into Sweden's unique, light-touch approach to COVID-19, emphasizing its long-term health and economic implications. Meanwhile, David Rennie, the Beijing bureau chief, reveals the complexities of Chinese street-level law enforcement, highlighting nuanced interactions with street vendors. Together, they examine how these contrasting perspectives shape societal norms, resistance, and innovative strategies like using decoy eggs to combat sea turtle egg poaching.