Vass Bednar, a tech and policy expert, and Siva Vaidhyanathan, a media studies professor, dive into the crisis of our shrinking attention spans. They discuss how smartphones shift our relationship with art and literature, advocating for deeper engagement over superficial consumption. The guests share strategies to combat digital distractions, emphasizing mindfulness and authentic reading. They also critique how modern media manipulates our focus, highlighting that shallow engagement can hinder societal awareness and artistic appreciation.