Sir Malcolm Rifkind, a former UK foreign secretary, shares insights on Britain's shifting role in the Ukraine conflict. Alexander Stubb, President of Finland, discusses Europe's strategy to support Ukraine in light of diminishing U.S. involvement. Ukrainian journalist Nataliya Gumenyuk provides a poignant on-the-ground perspective, highlighting the resilience of her country amidst the turmoil. The conversation addresses the complexities of shifting alliances, the urgency for international support, and the human cost of ongoing aggression.

Is China an enemy that needs to be reined in, or a potential partner with whom the West should engage? Hear the arguments and decide for yourself.  Speakers: Martin Wolf, Keyu Jin, Sir Malcolm Rifkind. Chair: Carrie Gracie Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared.  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices