Simone Saunders, a trauma therapist specializing in cognitive bypassing, joins the conversation to explore the intricate dance between emotions and cognition. They delve into the concept of cognitive bypassing and its ties to trauma, discussing how somatic tools can break the cycle of overthinking. Topics such as the freeze and fawn stress responses, managing triggers, and the challenges of unhealthy relationships are tackled. The duo emphasizes the importance of emotional authenticity, agency, and the transformative power of navigating grief.