Sidney Brownstone, an investigative reporter with the Seattle Times, and Will James, host of the Lost Patients podcast, dive into the haunting legacy of Northern State Hospital. They discuss the paradox of mental healthcare, where a facility designed for rehabilitation ultimately fell prey to the chaos of deinstitutionalization. The duo highlights the story of Phil Diro, illustrating the harsh realities faced by former patients as they navigated a failing support system. Their conversation sheds light on the ongoing challenges in mental health care and society's responsibility.