Jonquilyn Hill, a cultural commentator at Vox, teams up with Shelly McKenzie, author of "Getting Physical." They dive into the booming fitness trend, discussing how exercise transformed from a health taboo to a cultural touchstone. Jonquilyn highlights the role of control amid uncertainty, while Shelly emphasizes limitations, like genetics. They explore why younger generations are embracing fitness, the impact of social media, and how exercise acts as a social signal. The conversation links political messaging to fitness ideals, painting a complex picture of modern health culture.