Peter McKay, a former Conservative cabinet minister and political commentator, joins Shachi Kurl, president of the Angus Reid Institute, along with David McGuinty, Minister of National Defence. They delve into the resignation of MP Matt Jeneroux and its implications for Pierre Poilievre's leadership. The panel explores the political dynamics of floor crossings and public polling on accountability. McGuinty discusses Canada's defense budget, striving for NATO targets, new procurement strategies, and how the government aims to do more with fewer civil servants.