Nitin Pai, co-founder of the Takshashila Institution, discusses the controversial creation of the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) under Elon Musk, arguing its ideological underpinnings and the dismissal of federal employees. Shabbir Ahmed sheds light on the clash between Tamil Nadu and the central government over the contentious three-language formula, emphasizing concerns about the preservation of local languages against federal impositions. Both guests explore how governance complexity affects regional identities and public policy.