Leadership is explored through the perspectives of executive coach Patrice Gordon, organizational psychologist Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, former First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon, and educator Shabana Basij-Rasikh. Topics include reverse mentoring, redefining leadership, lessons from losing, reimagining success beyond GDP, changing landscape of leadership, and education and resilience in Afghanistan.

From workplaces to schools to national governments, leaders everywhere are being called on to solve complex problems with humility and bravery. This hour, we consider what it takes to be a leader. Guests include executive coach Patrice Gordon, organizational psychologist Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon, and educator Shabana Basij-Rasikh.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Shabana Basij-Rasikh, an educator and founder of Afghanistan's first all-girls boarding school, shares her incredible journey of evacuating over 250 students and staff to Rwanda after the Taliban's takeover. She highlights the urgent need for global advocacy for Afghan women's rights and education. Through stories of resilience, Shabana emphasizes the importance of hope and steadfastness in the face of adversity. Her experiences challenge listeners to support and empower the next generation of Afghan girls who dream of education.