Tiankai Feng, Head of Data Strategy & Governance at Thoughtworks and author on data strategy, joins Sebastian Kaus, Head of Data Governance at Vattenfall, focused on net-zero emissions. They discuss the importance of humanizing data through storytelling, empathy, and creativity. Gamifying data governance is a key topic, showcasing how playful approaches can boost employee engagement. They also explore the evolution of data governance, emphasizing context and collaboration to enhance decision-making and ethical practices in data usage.