Seb Duyck, a senior attorney at the Center for International Environmental Law, dives into Switzerland's resistance to change its climate policies despite a recent court ruling. He discusses the growing tension between judicial mandates and governmental accountability. The conversation also touches on a high-profile wine fraud scandal, the complexities of European migration policies, and the ethical dilemmas faced by nations regarding climate change. With humor and insight, the episode explores the intersection of law, rights, and environmental responsibility.