Lindsay Burke, Director at the Center for Education Policy, and Saurabh Amari, a political analyst from UnHerd, delve into the controversial Project 2025 and its impact on education reform. They discuss the push to dismantle the Department of Education and how that might affect local schools. The implications of technology on learning outcomes, the funding paradox in education, and the challenges of existing federal structures are also scrutinized. Plus, they tackle Elon Musk's evolving relationship with the MAGA movement, exploring themes of betrayal and changing voter sentiments.